Apex I think it will catch on. Nearly everyone says arc now instead of the Cattle Market, a few grumpy old locals apart and they probably wouldn't shop there anyway. All the time I hear people in town saying let's go to the arc, or the arc this or that. Apex is equally modern and sounds like the sort of place a band would play or a conference would be held.

Bumble I hate to disapoint you, but there are more than a "a few grumpy old locals " "and they probably wouldn't shop there anyway." Some of us may be grumpy, but the majority of us are not, some are in fact young we just have a different view, and a desire for some form of traditional approach. Some of us may stop, some of us more traditionalist will go to our maker referring to the centre as the "Cattle Market" In time no doubt you may feel the same about some issue or other. I personally cant say I know many people that refer to the new centre by the new name, but then I have been around a while and its stores dont attract me or my immediate friends. Please read back over some of the earlier posts and update your sellf on the use of names, its use as a marketing tool, and how these change over time. I dont disagree with your view, I hold a different one, who is to say which is correct if any, only time will tell.

Welcome to the site / discussion , but please remember this is a site about Your Bury, a town some of us feel very very strongly about. Born and bred and all that.

A rare visit to this site moves me to urge you all to visit:

http://paulfarmer.blogspot.com/2009/07/ ... oever.html

Sorry Buryboy I didn't mean to offend. I just get cross when people are automatically resistent to change. I sometimes get the impression that unless things remain exactly the same - no new houses, no new buildings and young people leaving Bury St Edmunds in droves - the Bury Society et al will never be satisfied.

Change can be good as well as bad! I'llbe a bit more constructive in future and thanks for the welcome

Cllr Farmer - I'm normally a supporter of your efforts but if you're going to visit this website at least contribute to the debate rather than trying to drive traffic to your own website! As for your post that the fact that there are pitched roofs in Bury St Edmunds somehow makes 'Apex' have some historical resonance is slightly laughable. And I say that as a supporter of the name! You could find those shapes in any town anywhere in the country. Don't try reaching to justify something - all you do is make it look like it needs to be done. Apex is a strong name in its own right - it doesn't need your desperate attempts to appease the great and the good

No offence taken Bumble, all comment is welcome, Often change is good, some times for the better, some times not. Its just human nature to be conserative, and steer away from change for changes sake, and some of us born and bred types here are a little reluctant to accept change readly ( one or two as you say are just not willing to compromise). As a progressive market town we have to develop, and adjust, some of us like it, others find it difficult. Its how this change is exercised or communicated that I find frustrating. The new shopping centre is positive change, the name, well its a name. the new venue is positive, the name well its a name. How we go about keeping the town centre and the market stalls going is a challenge. On the cattlemarket development there is a lot to uncover regarding the orginal contracts, choice of developer, insurance, and use of our rate payers money, which needs to be "flushed out".
I think I am suggesting that I accept change to my belovered town, I embrace it ( slowly), but I dont want to get ripped off, or have to listern to elected people justifing the change to futher their own positions, or pet projects. We are making decisions for the future of our town, as our forebares did 100 or 200 years ago, not simple decisions for tomorrow and 20 years time. What we do now effects our towns future and continual existance. ( a choice of name to a degree can have its effect, and should be at least discussed). Change should be discussed and debated, so others can see why and how some decisions were made.

I agree with Squirrel. If people are going to visit this website it should be to contribute not to advertise their own site and not say anything else. Admin what do you have to say on the subject?

I am with Squirrel, and Middle School Mum on this one, Bad form Mr farmer.

Me too. i've already put in my complaint with Mr R

My apologies to all. I was really trying to make my point (!) lazily, and I didn't know how else to get the pictures to you. I won't do it again. One reason for not contributing to the debate here, rather than on my own site, is that I simply haven't the time to get sucked into all the interesting subjects - nor often to read the responses. Having an all-or-nothing attitude to these things means there's likely to be at most very little from me. Do I hear a sigh or two of relief?

I am particularly sorry to have annoyed those of you who are signed up members of the sensible party, whose contributions are heartening. As for my pictures, all they were challenging is the phrase ' no relevance to Bury whatsoever'. Yes, you will find stunning examples of gothic or gothic revival architecture elsewhere in Europe, but East Anglia has more than its fair share of the perpendicular, and Bury too. Pitched roofs are common: the cathedral tower is not. There is surely a difference between a natural roof construction and an intentional architectural feature.

My efforts have not been a 'desperate' attempt at anything, other than to suggest that the name 'The Apex' has some resonance with Bury, notwithstanding its other attributes.

Now I know why I haven't the tiome to go on like this!

PF